@tinydoctor @sirjofri @Nigel_Lake @paninid
so we have to seduce them
you can't reason with them, as you've tried to do
it has to be emotional
so we simply have to beat #corporate #plutocrat #centralized at it's own game
make #decentralized #socialMedia so enticing they prefer it, emotionally
now i'm not saying that's easy
but that's what must be done
and it's not an impossible thing
@benroyce @tinydoctor @sirjofri @Nigel_Lake @paninid
I guess what I wonder is if it gets LARGE, as in 20-50 million users, how does Mastodon not need to be monetized? And when money gets involved, how does it not become like the others?
I know nothing of how anything works.
@RoguePlayer @tinydoctor @sirjofri @Nigel_Lake @paninid
zero argument. and a serious problem
#mastodon is pretty much hobbyist mode. people contribute and donate, but yeah, that can't support growth to huge numbers
number one: fuck #ads. no ads, ever
beyond that, there has to be something
it can't be #capitalist, #corporate
that puts #mastodon in the same vise as #bluesky: the #vulturecapital #venturecapital, once it has that in, can take it over and send it the same way as #twitter
hmmm
@benroyce @RoguePlayer @tinydoctor @sirjofri @Nigel_Lake @paninid I'm tired of people whining about the cost of things like this, when they can afford a fucking Latte every day, they can afford to pay the server 5 bucks a month for operating costs, at the very least. In other words, you get what you pay for.
@csgraves @RoguePlayer @tinydoctor @sirjofri @Nigel_Lake @paninid
it's worthwhile to explore alternative funding methods, because here's the simple truth: people want social media to just work, for free
you can castigate that attitude all you want
but all that means is 99% of people go to centralized plutocrat social media, which we don't want. so we need a better approach than merely "you suck"
and to be clear, i agree with you. but the reality of the situation is not so simple, is my point
@benroyce @RoguePlayer @tinydoctor @sirjofri @Nigel_Lake @paninid and this is a problem. If people just want something to work, and for free, then they'll have to wait a long time for that. The problem with "free" in this context is, and I know this is more preaching to the choir, YOU are the product. Your life, your information, your choices, your family and friends. All for sale. I have made my choice, and I am all but done with META. Just need to get contact for a few peeps and I'm out.
@csgraves @benroyce @RoguePlayer @tinydoctor @sirjofri @Nigel_Lake
Social media is where pamphleteering meets website management.
John Hancock got wealthy smuggling to avoid customs duties to the Crown.
He funneled that money back into underwriting a revolution.
A revolution that relied on pamphleteering and the printing presses of private individuals (see: Ben Franklin).
@paninid @csgraves @RoguePlayer @tinydoctor @sirjofri @Nigel_Lake
and the dude's signature was extraordinary. sitting out there so large and bold and classy 😆
@benroyce @csgraves @RoguePlayer @tinydoctor @sirjofri @Nigel_Lake
so that “the British ministry can read that name without spectacles” 🔥
@paninid @csgraves @RoguePlayer @tinydoctor @sirjofri @Nigel_Lake
today i learned! i had to search on your post
https://prologue.blogs.archives.gov/2019/09/12/john-hancock-and-his-signature/
🤣
@paninid @benroyce @csgraves @RoguePlayer @tinydoctor @sirjofri @Nigel_Lake
Is it not clear by now that the good guys actually lost the American Revolution?
@paninid @benroyce @csgraves @RoguePlayer @tinydoctor @sirjofri @Nigel_Lake
I often ask my history students here if they know how many people died in the Canadian War of Independence. It's a trick question--we just asked for it at the right time and then negotiated like gentlemen. Apparently none of the founders ever considered that option.
@sendtherunners @benroyce @csgraves @RoguePlayer @tinydoctor @sirjofri @Nigel_Lake
The #American ethos is - and has always been - to #BeUngovernable 🫡
@sendtherunners @paninid @csgraves @RoguePlayer @tinydoctor @sirjofri @Nigel_Lake
the usa exists because of the quebec act of 1774
british colonists were incensed at concessions made to french colonists to win their loyalty. the british govt didn't consider the loyalty of someone else
based on that observation, the fate of north america was decided in one hour on sept 13 1759:
@benroyce @sendtherunners @paninid @RoguePlayer @tinydoctor @sirjofri @Nigel_Lake would if only the whole drama would have been stopped by the massacre of Columbus and his shock troops, sorry, "explorers."
I want independance from European values. Which means USA/Canada.
Yes, I'm a bit radical that way. It isn't likely to happen, but this continent should not be ruled by European mores at all.
Not even remotely one tiny bit.
@csgraves @benroyce @sendtherunners @RoguePlayer @tinydoctor @sirjofri @Nigel_Lake
The European #Enlightenment learned of #egalitarian values from the indigenous / First Nations people.
Not even the #Renaissance brought that about.
@csgraves @sendtherunners @paninid @RoguePlayer @tinydoctor @sirjofri @Nigel_Lake
eh. they killed Ferdinand Magellan in the philippines. but some other asshole came anyways
but they did get this amazing statue of Lapu Lapu, who killed Magellan
what needs to be done is to dynamite Mt. Rushmore and put up Sitting Bull
the real problem was disease. disease killed so many, it was hard to mount a successful resistance
@benroyce @csgraves @sendtherunners @RoguePlayer @tinydoctor @sirjofri @Nigel_Lake
Add John Brown to Rushmore.
@paninid @csgraves @sendtherunners @RoguePlayer @tinydoctor @sirjofri @Nigel_Lake
no
dynamite Stone Mountain in Georgia, with Confederate assholes on it
put John Brown there
@benroyce @csgraves @sendtherunners @RoguePlayer @tinydoctor @sirjofri @Nigel_Lake
“Don’t argue with folks John Brown would have shot.”
@paninid @csgraves @sendtherunners @RoguePlayer @tinydoctor @sirjofri @Nigel_Lake
nah, in bleeding kansas, brown and his sons preferred hacking pro-slavery assholes to death with broadswords
@paninid @csgraves @sendtherunners @RoguePlayer @tinydoctor @sirjofri @Nigel_Lake
we owe our Constitution (now being destroyed by orange turd) to the checks and balances govt system of the Haudenosaunee Confederacy (Iroquois)
who says? me?
no, Congress:
https://www.congress.gov/bill/100th-congress/house-concurrent-resolution/331
@paninid @benroyce @sendtherunners @RoguePlayer @tinydoctor @sirjofri @Nigel_Lake yes they did. And yet they learned nothing.
@paninid @benroyce @csgraves @RoguePlayer @tinydoctor @sirjofri @Nigel_Lake
An alternate version of that slogan would be "proudly barbaric."
Appreciate you, brother. This is all friendly banter before a high stakes hockey game tonight...
@sendtherunners @benroyce @csgraves @RoguePlayer @tinydoctor @sirjofri @Nigel_Lake
I mean, don’t get stuck sitting next to the truckers from the convoy 😉
