@RoguePlayer

sometimes, the loudmouth hothead approach is indeed the particular form of art you need to employ

@benroyce

When you have a political party who threatens Social Security, healthcare, the banking system, the climate, half of the world's bodily autonomy and then over half of the people you know and love overwhelmingly voted for such?
No. You are not going to sit down and try to discuss or change the hearts and minds. The electorate has effectively given them permission to fuck any and all of us any way they wish. We've been trained to order shit sandwiches and then ask for seconds.

@RegGuy @benroyce

Aside from any hyperbole you may see here, the fact that any candidate can run with a platform that states ANY of what they've said, common sense and logic would make one think that achieving 1 vote is one too many.

I could care less about mandates or percentages. Anything else is just semantics. This is beyond communicating. They need to get hurt personally to get thru their thick fucking skulls.

@benroyce @RoguePlayer @RegGuy

Less than a quarter of Americans voted for him (77M of 335M)

@DavidM_yeg It appears that about 62-63% of the eligible voters voted, thus making his percentage about 31% of voters.

Shame on the 1/3+ who did not vote. @benroyce @RoguePlayer

@RegGuy @DavidM_yeg @RoguePlayer

As far I am concerned, anyone who did not #vote loses all right to complain about anything in #American #Politics

If I get in an argument and I sense some "both sides the same" or "I send a message by not participating" lying bullshit: block and ignore. Utterly irredeemable. Some people are just completely useless whiny self-destructive morons. They helped give us our coming hell

@RoguePlayer @RegGuy @benroyce

Less than a quarter of Americans: I meant exactly what I said… ‘eligibility’ is another game they play to manipulate the system.

@DavidM_yeg You've got to be of legal age to vote. About 80 million of those 335 million are not eligible to vote, period. @RoguePlayer @benroyce

@RoguePlayer @RegGuy @benroyce

Those 80M are Americans are they not?

@DavidM_yeg @RoguePlayer @RegGuy

Joe's just saying you can't use the total American population. You have to be 18 or older to vote

@DavidM_yeg Can they vote? No. Therefore they are not eligible voters. Counting them as if they didn't vote is incongruous to figuring out what percentage voted. @RoguePlayer @benroyce

@RoguePlayer @benroyce @RegGuy

I understand, but it actually underscores my point: there are more children in the USA than people who voted for Trump.

And dismissing people who ‘don’t count’ *is* how they ‘play the game’ … children have more stake in every election than anyone else, they will need to live with the ultimate results longest.

@DavidM_yeg I didn't say "don't count" I said percentage of eligible voters. @RoguePlayer @benroyce

@benroyce @RegGuy @DavidM_yeg @RoguePlayer

I'd add 3rd party voters and single issue voters to this list. Both always tilt things towards conservatives.

I'm especially annoyed with the "Harris supports genocide!" people. WTF did they think Trump would support?

@benroyce @RegGuy @DavidM_yeg @RoguePlayer

To me, the ones who stayed home are worse than the ones that voted for Trump. The cultists were always gonna cultist. The ones that stayed home, though? Thanks for not caring enough about the rest of the country to try to help save it from the cultists and the rapacious-billionaires.

@ferricoxide The ones who stayed home:
* Not pragmatic
* Chose to be spiritual martyrs with Palestinians by choosing a suicide candidate.
* So angry, lost ability to respond logically, screaming Fuck Us! 🤔

@ferricoxide @benroyce @RegGuy @DavidM_yeg @RoguePlayer

I can understand this attitude, but I think you have to take the Electoral College into account. In Massachusetts or California, what’s the point of either a Republican or Democrat going out to vote, unless there might be a lower office contest that was in doubt (I don’t remember if my Congress member nor members of the legislature had opponents, come to think of it)?

I think, in fact, you saw this in California: fewer voters turned out where the House Congressional seat was pretty assured, more voters turned out in Congressional districts where one’s vote mattered.

I guess both California and Massachusetts had referenda to vote on….

@ferricoxide @DavidM_yeg @RoguePlayer @benroyce @RegGuy Agree, 100%. Trump got the same number of votes he did in 2020. 7 million Biden voters stayed home.

@ferricoxide @benroyce @RegGuy @DavidM_yeg @RoguePlayer The ones who stayed home, to a great extent, just couldn’t stomach voting for a black woman, oh the horror! And some probably believed Tim #Walz was not manly man enough. It was the best overall #Democratic ticket in probably my lifetime and it wasn’t enough for some and, shamefully, too much for others. It makes me want to hurl.

@Thumper1964 I voted for them. But I have to say Walz was the worst pick for VP since, well, I don't know when. He was horrible in his debate, unable to speak clearly and forcefully at all. Any time I heard him speak he uttered muddled statement and confusing ideas. Just a terrible choice. @ferricoxide @benroyce @DavidM_yeg @RoguePlayer

@lain_7 @ferricoxide @RegGuy @DavidM_yeg @RoguePlayer

why are you abrogating your social responsibility?

through your thinking blue states become purple states, purple states become red states, red states become blood

there's no excuses

none

you #vote

period

through that you *change* the electoral college. but we'll never change that if people don't fucking show up in force

exercises in excuse making is nothing but you rationalizing your own impotency

i do not share your impotency

@benroyce I agree 100%. I have voted in every election, even for "dog catcher" since I could vote. 1976 was my first presidential election and I voted for President Carter. I was so upset when Reagan won in 1980. I told my boss, that this was the end of small businesses. She argued I was wrong, hers went out of business a little more than a year later after 35 years. It's been downhill ever since. @lain_7 @ferricoxide @DavidM_yeg @RoguePlayer

@RegGuy @benroyce @lain_7 @ferricoxide @DavidM_yeg @RoguePlayer That’s the same election when I first voted. I was equally disappointed when Reagan won in 1980, and I likewise blame him for the long decline of American civilization—he taught voters that it is okay to be selfish.

@JosephMeyer The irony of my voting in 1976 is that it was a Republican man who went through the trouble to get me registered. I had moved and had not changed my registration. He said he'd help, and did. Things were so different in 1976.@benroyce @lain_7 @ferricoxide @DavidM_yeg @RoguePlayer

@KevinM1 The Israel thing was perfectly timed to upend our election. I too was infuriated with that rhetoric. @benroyce @DavidM_yeg @RoguePlayer

@RoguePlayer You can't use logic with MAGA types. Not letting them build their hyperbolic BS is key to blunting their arguments. @benroyce