@Babcia54 @AnarchoNinaAnalyzes Yes but if you also have rich people pay taxes and poor people do not then it’s the rich people paying for it. In the UK you don’t pay any tax for the first £12500. Then its 20% up to £60K then its 40% and so on. Poor people genuinely get free healthcare.

@cyberspice @Babcia54 Poor people are dying & becoming sicker from lack of being able to afford medications, essential medical supplies, not being able to access medical treatments, & more in BC, Canada - under a corrupted, universal health care system. Poor people don't actually get total free health care, even under universal health care systems. You're perpetuating a very dangerous myth.

@AnarchoNinaAnalyzes BC is supposed to have universal health care but we actually don't. Our government is trying to privatize more health care & some of us have been fighting against that for a few years.

@PhoenixSerenity Yeah I live in Ontario, where the same thing is going on. But it just seems weird to jump in to a discussion about why Americans should advocate for universal healthcare, and respond to someone talking about how universal healthcare should work if it's universal, and their understanding of UK healthcare, to point out that BC's healthcare is bad/not universal/underfunded.

I mean most of the replies in this thread are... pretty off topic or even borderline insulting - like the person who thought I was unaware of how taxes work for example. But we talk a lot so I kinda wanted to ask what you were saying here, or rather if you understood what it sounded like you were saying anyway.

@AnarchoNinaAnalyzes Our system is very similar to UK system with taxes & universal health care models. I brought it up because people who aren't poor tend to believe that all poor folks get free health care under universal health care, which isn't happening. Some folks come to Canada & find out that fact, the hard way. I support full universal health care for all - in every country.

@PhoenixSerenity Okay but if the system were universal, they would get free healthcare. So what you meant to say was "BC doesn't have universal healthcare, they just call it that, and neither does the UK" no?

@AnarchoNinaAnalyzes Correct. Neither UK nor Canada have genuine universal health care. Our governments calls it that but it doesn't exist in reality.

@PhoenixSerenity Right, but you gotta SAY that somewhere, or us dumb Americans are gonna think "I saw people from France and Canada and the UK who all have universal healthcare and they say it sucks and it'll kill you."

@AnarchoNinaAnalyzes I have posted several times in past about how our system needs improvements to prevent more avoidable deaths, disabilities & more illnesses from lack of full universal health care but it's still better than US system where insurance companies run the system. It's harder trying to get local citizens here to join fights against more privatization of our health care services than trying to convince US folks that a universal health care system is better than what they've got now. Most US folks I'm connected with have been fighting for universal health care for a long time.

@PhoenixSerenity But... not in the thread where I advocate for Americans to push for universal healthcare right? Like yes, you've posted it many times, I believe you, I think I've even seen it... but not in the thread I posted about a US athlete advocating for universal healthcare, correct?

@AnarchoNinaAnalyzes Correct. Except in these replies.

@PhoenixSerenity Right. And I certainly hope Americans on the fence about it read them. That's really all I was getting at.

Because again, if you don't know better a lot of the complaints in this thread from people from Canada, and the UK, and France, sure do sound like "universal healthcare sucks" to folks who've never had even something that looks like it. Which you know, isn't a very good message for the Americans my post targeted - a post about a U.S. athlete getting healthcare for the first time and deciding to advocate for universal healthcare at home.

And of course, as I mentioned, I'm talking to YOU about it, instead of any of them because I feel like we know each other a little bit, and I don't really know the French people doing the same.

@AnarchoNinaAnalyzes I hope a lot more Americans will fight hard to obtain a start to universal health care system because their privatized health insurance system is killing too many people & making folks who are already sick, sicker. The government can 100% afford to fund it. Access to health care is an international human right that deserves to be fought for & protected, always.